The facts on fertility

[desirouspussy]

While 'functionality' has in a limited way been discussed within one or two threads, I discovered that the subject of 'fertility' has not ever had a mention on this forum. Perhaps not all that surprising, since most posters here are members of the male gender. No matter how serious a transsexual woman's relationship with a man is going to be, fertility is unlikely to become an issue. Should she however choose to get involved with a genetic woman, things could be quite different.

I searched the net for information on the subject and found a report that seemed to make things clear, stating that hormone intake will destroy fertility permanently without exception. I have however since than come across a conflicting view. This particular person stated that through careful management of the hormone intake, fertility can often be restored in the same way as functionality. So, now I am confused and even more eager to know the facts.

Can anyone enlighten me on this matter? I am particularly interested in Bionca's view, since she is generally very well informed on subjects such as this one.

Diana

[racquel]

Doctors I've talked to seem to agree that being on hormones generally render a TS girl sterile within just a few months, but the only way to be sure is to get her sperm count tested. Even if you have an extremely low sperm count, it is often still possible to have children at a fertility clinic by taking a testicular biopsy.

A lot of things can happen to your body when you start adding estrogen and blocking testosterone. Your testicles will start to atrophy. You have to understand what TS girls are doing to their bodies. They are not trying to mimic the hormones of a genetic woman; they are overloading their bodies to try and instigate female puberty, and they are trying to block all the testosterone possible. It is standard for TS girls to take 200mg/day of spiro, and this will quickly lower their testosterone level to much less than that of a genetic girl. I take a quarter that, and my testicles are pretty sore/sensitive most of the time. It's certainly not a good thing to do if you ever want to impregnate someone.

That said, you could just find one of those girls who does porn and has a boob job but isn't even on hormones.

[desirouspussy]

That said, you could just find one of those girls who does porn and has a boob job but isn't even on hormones.

Thank you for the suggestion, Racquel, but that really isn't an option I would consider. Given the choice between a girl on hormones who does everything to be feminine and one capable to make me pregnant, I would definitely opt for the first. Besides, I am far to much into natural breasted girls.

I would love to live my life with a girl able to fulfil my baby wish but not at all cost.

[Bionca]

What Raquel said. The levels of estrogen we take combined with the testosterone blockers makes us infertile usually within the first 6 months, definately within the first year. It should also be noted that in some states and countries sterilization is required by the government for us to get any sort of official sex markers changed on our documentation. Some gals will bank their sperm just in case they have an urge later to make a baby.

[GRH]

I will echo Bionca's sentiments...

Find a girl EARLY in transition, not on hormones, or who is willing to bank sperm. All the literature I've read suggests that extended hormone treatment will make a genetic male infertile. Thus, banking sperm prior to hormone treatment is preferable...IF it's desirable to have children at a later date.

[desirouspussy]

Thank you for your response, girls! It's more or less what I expected, though I was of course hoping to hear something else. The three of you are of the same mind, so I guess there is no doubt.

Sooooo......my only option would be to find a girl who has banked her sperm. Seems like the impossible to me. Hard enough finding a girl who's interested in genetic women anyway.

Diana

[ObscureAlternative]

...genetic woman...genetic girl...

OK, no offence intended, but I really hate the myriad of things those terms can imply. For starters, I say this as a male-identified person whose genetic tests show I have an XX karotype (albeit with possibly the highest natural testosterone levels before being diagnosable with certain "hormonal imbalances"). Some Trans women and Trans men prefer "cisgender" while others prefer to simply say "non-TS/non-Trans". I also know two Trans women whose karotype is XXY, but without Kleinfelter's Syndrome, making their "genetic" status technically "Intersexed" while their natal-assigned sex (based on appearances for one woman, and based on a minor reconstruction for the other) was obviously "male".

I know people are going to say whatever they like, regardless, but I just thought I'd share for those who'd like to learn some more.

[racquel]

OK, no offence intended, but I really hate the myriad of things those terms can imply.

What do you find ambiguous about the terms GM and GG?

GM = XY = natal male = cisgender male = non-trans male
GG = XX = natal female = cisgender female = non-trans female

GG is one of the least ambiguous terms you'll ever see when dealing with TS issues. Genetic girl. Girl with XX chromosomes. Simple. It's one of the few terms that people who know nothing about trans issues can understand easily.

Of course intersexed people are an exception and cannot be properly defined with any of those terms.

[quickpick]

Very good topic on fertility. I'm a man, but found this topic very interesting nonetheless.