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Talvenada
02-22-2009, 10:39 PM
BIONCA:

You are in a difficult spot: between a dog and a tree!

It's akin to a half breed, where the white relatives disown you, as do the black relatives.

Gay guys are attracted to guys who are masculine, which leaves straight guys attracted to females.

I don't envy your perplexing situation w/ relatives, friends, co-workers, etc., and there have been SRS's who have changed back after that 1st change.

So, the question is which is heavier the positives or the negatives, regarding your transition? Is there more good or more bad, as opposed to being where you were B4 your transition?

Please, elaborate your pluses and minuses.

Also, some of the other girls could chime in as well, please.

franalexes
02-23-2009, 07:40 PM
DOG and a TREE ?

I think you fell out of yours.
Just WTF does this post have to do with anything, starting a new thread?

CreativeMind
02-23-2009, 08:48 PM
DOG and a TREE?
I think you fell out of yours.
Just WTF does this post have to do with anything, starting a new thread?

I think that since Bionca usually writes such thoughtful posts about her life and experiences, he's basically asking her -- as well as any other TS here -- to discuss their transitions and how it's ultimately affected them, for better or worse.

Uh...I THINK that's what he's asking.
Otherwise I have no idea either!

hellblazer72
02-23-2009, 11:30 PM
i think he's been drinking some ole white lightning...moonshine that is..if that's the case then dude go easy on the kerosene when mixing up the next batch :)

Talvenada
02-24-2009, 12:38 AM
I think that since Bionca usually writes such thoughtful posts about her life and experiences, he's basically asking her -- as well as any other TS here -- to discuss their transitions and how it's ultimately affected them, for better or worse.

Uh...I THINK that's what he's asking.
Otherwise I have no idea either!

C-MIND:

I didn't think it was that unclear.

Usually, Bionca writes about negative things she is unhappy with, and it's 90% negative.

I'm not saying she should do anything different.

I am saying what other things are there: negatives not mentioned, positives that make her happy.

Plus, does the good outweigh the bad, is it a draw, or are there regrets?

Talvenada
02-24-2009, 12:59 AM
DOG and a TREE ?

I think you fell out of yours.
Just WTF does this post have to do with anything, starting a new thread?

FRAN:

What? No poetic justice for me!

Where's the rhyme with the slime?

Bionca
02-24-2009, 05:08 PM
BIONCA:

You are in a difficult spot: between a dog and a tree!

It's akin to a half breed, where the white relatives disown you, as do the black relatives.

Gay guys are attracted to guys who are masculine, which leaves straight guys attracted to females.

I don't envy your perplexing situation w/ relatives, friends, co-workers, etc., and there have been SRS's who have changed back after that 1st change.

So, the question is which is heavier the positives or the negatives, regarding your transition? Is there more good or more bad, as opposed to being where you were B4 your transition?

Please, elaborate your pluses and minuses.

Also, some of the other girls could chime in as well, please.

This is a good question actually, and one that I have asked myself a couple times. For me, transition was neither "good" nor "bad" but critical. Transitioning my body mentally/emotionally puts me at a base-level of functioning within my own body/life from a profound negative. It allowed me to live life at a comparative level with the rest of people who are not constantly wishing they were dead, planning how best to end it all, not to mention having no emotional relationship with their own bodies.

That could be seen as a positive, and I count it as such, in as much as any medical procedure is a positive when it improves the quality of a person's life. So, I can function daily at an even level with the rest of people free to bungle or improve my life as I will - and I have done both.

The down side is that transitioning has complicated some pretty basic and important things. I can't just get any old job - HAVE to make sure the company won't fire the tranny. Dating is complicated to say the least. Other relationships are also complicated by me being trans.

On the positive, I had to develop humor, a thick skin, a razor-keen survival instinct, and I think I can relate to people better having done what I did. Being trans has increased the empathy I feel for people and has given me a genuine desire to help others.

I also can honestly say I am at a place where I don't cringe when I look in the mirror. Not only that, but I can see someone who is kinda cute, has made her life worth something, and who is worthy of respect. None of those could have happened without transitioning.

Cyber D
02-24-2009, 09:27 PM
This is a good question actually, and one that I have asked myself a couple times. For me, transition was neither "good" nor "bad" but critical. Transitioning my body mentally/emotionally puts me at a base-level of functioning within my own body/life from a profound negative. It allowed me to live life at a comparative level with the rest of people who are not constantly wishing they were dead, planning how best to end it all, not to mention having no emotional relationship with their own bodies.

That could be seen as a positive, and I count it as such, in as much as any medical procedure is a positive when it improves the quality of a person's life. So, I can function daily at an even level with the rest of people free to bungle or improve my life as I will - and I have done both.

The down side is that transitioning has complicated some pretty basic and important things. I can't just get any old job - HAVE to make sure the company won't fire the tranny. Dating is complicated to say the least. Other relationships are also complicated by me being trans.

On the positive, I had to develop humor, a thick skin, a razor-keen survival instinct, and I think I can relate to people better having done what I did. Being trans has increased the empathy I feel for people and has given me a genuine desire to help others.

I also can honestly say I am at a place where I don't cringe when I look in the mirror. Not only that, but I can see someone who is kinda cute, has made her life worth something, and who is worthy of respect. None of those could have happened without transitioning.


Cause you're so Awesome girl :)

This song popped in my head as I was reading your post reply on her hun :D

If this works that is hun :P

Seether - Rise Above This (http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/11/21/1598951/Seether-%20Rise%20Above%20This.mp3)

Or you could click this one and it will give you a nice pretty player in it's own little window rather then just the track. :cool:

Quick Playlist to post for Special People (in the Good way :lol:) (http://www.profileplaylist.net/mc/mp3player_new.swf?config=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.profilep laylist.net%2Fext%2Fpc%2Fconfig_green.xml&mywidth=195&myheight=190&playlist_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.profileplaylist.net% 2Floadplaylist.php%3Fplaylist%3D59635025%26t%3D123 5532049)

Well both will work for everyone I'm sure, one is just prettier then the other :p hehe

And a BIG :hug: for you Bionca. You Lovely girl you :inlove: hehe :p

David "Cyber D" Vonaven

darkstargemini
03-17-2009, 01:36 AM
> hey man whatever your on better be careful i see a train wreck comin:lol:

new believer
03-17-2009, 01:04 PM
I don't know if that was really his intended question but somehow was spared the hook by CM. I'm still floored by 'between a dog and a tree'. whoa.

ladylover
03-18-2009, 02:08 AM
This is a good question actually, and one that I have asked myself a couple times. For me, transition was neither "good" nor "bad" but critical. Transitioning my body mentally/emotionally puts me at a base-level of functioning within my own body/life from a profound negative. It allowed me to live life at a comparative level with the rest of people who are not constantly wishing they were dead, planning how best to end it all, not to mention having no emotional relationship with their own bodies.

That could be seen as a positive, and I count it as such, in as much as any medical procedure is a positive when it improves the quality of a person's life. So, I can function daily at an even level with the rest of people free to bungle or improve my life as I will - and I have done both.

The down side is that transitioning has complicated some pretty basic and important things. I can't just get any old job - HAVE to make sure the company won't fire the tranny. Dating is complicated to say the least. Other relationships are also complicated by me being trans.

On the positive, I had to develop humor, a thick skin, a razor-keen survival instinct, and I think I can relate to people better having done what I did. Being trans has increased the empathy I feel for people and has given me a genuine desire to help others.

I also can honestly say I am at a place where I don't cringe when I look in the mirror. Not only that, but I can see someone who is kinda cute, has made her life worth something, and who is worthy of respect. None of those could have happened without transitioning.

Great post. I wish you the best. You're a beautiful woman, and all of us are trying to figure everything out. I'm in a relationship with a woman, and I could not be more happy. She understands my attraction to females, whether they used to be male, etc......... Good luck to you!

thequietone1
03-18-2009, 02:24 AM
I also can honestly say I am at a place where I don't cringe when I look in the mirror. Not only that, but I can see someone who is kinda cute, has made her life worth something, and who is worthy of respect. None of those could have happened without transitioning.


Your mirror is tarnished woman. You arent "kinda cute", more like insanely beautiful. Not that beauty makes life worth living on its own, you have covered both bases. You would command respect in any form IMHO, but as you are, you are one who really leads by example and that is commendable regardless of your hotness :lol: Im sure the path you've chosen will lead you to a wonderful place :respect:

franalexes
03-18-2009, 07:43 AM
On the positive, I had to develop humor, a thick skin, a razor-keen survival instinct, and I think I can relate to people better having done what I did.

SISTER ! :D:heart:

jodarling
03-18-2009, 07:18 PM
Your mirror is tarnished woman. You arent "kinda cute", more like insanely beautiful. Not that beauty makes life worth living on its own, you have covered both bases. You would command respect in any form IMHO, but as you are, you are one who really leads by example and that is commendable regardless of your hotness :lol: Im sure the path you've chosen will lead you to a wonderful place :respect:

Could not of said it better myself, so i'll just agree with everything you said. Bionca you are a beautiful person and not just beautiful looking. x

Susanne Pascale
03-24-2009, 02:43 PM
Bionca, I SO admire the intelligence and sensitivity of your posts.

Thank you!!

Bionca
03-24-2009, 08:18 PM
Shucks Susanne

*blushing furiously*