pics of you?

[guest]

ok so everyone here seems so interesting and intelligent, and i thought it would be interesting to see some of you guys.

i won't post my pic yet because i'd feel awkward if no one responds to this with a pic lol.. so feel free to post it here!

[translover]

it could be a good idea to post our photos ;)

But if i post my photo in here.i think i won't be feel good :eek:

Because i don't wanna be seen by my friends and my family :respect:

you will say "how they find you in here ?" if someone take it and post it another place, they can see me on other cases which i don't know.

And i wish i could say all my friends and family that i love T-girls :yes:

But i can't. They see me like gay. i am not gay, i like cocks but in a feminine way. and i also like girls and love them always.
:inlove:

At the same time, i am handsome enough, a little bit fat but i am good. ;)

Thats my feelings :p

Love you all :innocent:

[hankhavelock]

My pic is in my avatar - I'm the one on the left and my fiancee is on the right.

[guest]

it could be a good idea to post our photos ;)

But if i post my photo in here.i think i won't be feel good :eek:

Because i don't wanna be seen by my friends and my family :respect:

you will say "how they find you in here ?" if someone take it and post it another place, they can see me on other cases which i don't know.

And i wish i could say all my friends and family that i love T-girls :yes:

But i can't. They see me like gay. i am not gay, i like cocks but in a feminine way. and i also like girls and love them always.
:inlove:

At the same time, i am handsome enough, a little bit fat but i am good. ;)

Thats my feelings :p

Love you all :innocent:

hehe i didn't even consider the possibility of people i know seeing me here... that actually struck fear into me as i was reading it.. perhaps i won't post my pic here for the same exact reason as you.. i wish i could, i feel really good on this website but whatever.

maybe i'll post my pic later... still not sure... i mean what are the possibilities of my friends and family looking at this website?

thanks for sharing hankhavelock, i wish i could be as open about this stuff as you.

[hankhavelock]

...i mean what are the possibilities of my friends and family looking at this website?

Hehe... you can also look at it this way... if your friends and family see your picture here then they must be sharing your "interest"... I'd think they'd be here for the same reason as the rest of us good people... ;)

[Ogryn1313]

This is my most recent pic. Sadly it is stereotypicaly redneck. There I am in a wifebeater and some of my arsenal. Taken during a camping trip.

[Ogryn1313]

Here I resemble a cancer patient

[tlover]

it could be a good idea to post our photos ;)

But if i post my photo in here.i think i won't be feel good :eek:

Because i don't wanna be seen by my friends and my family :respect:

you will say "how they find you in here ?" if someone take it and post it another place, they can see me on other cases which i don't know.

And i wish i could say all my friends and family that i love T-girls :yes:

But i can't. They see me like gay. i am not gay, i like cocks but in a feminine way. and i also like girls and love them always.
:inlove:

At the same time, i am handsome enough, a little bit fat but i am good. ;)

Thats my feelings :p

Love you all :innocent:

I feel exactly the same, so i think we could post descriptions of ourselves instead, me later when time. :cool:

[translover]

A boy comes and says to her friend " my father saw your father at the adult movie saloon while jerking off " then, the other boy says and asks " ohh really, thats too bad. but what was your father doing in there ? " ..... :lol:

but i said " if someone take it and post it ANOTHER PLACE and they could see me on other cases in the internet which i don't know. "

[translover]

This is my most recent pic. Sadly it is stereotypicaly redneck. There I am in a wifebeater and some of my arsenal. Taken during a camping trip.

hey my friend ? what are they ? :eek:
i have been in Army but i haven't seen an ammunition like yours have even if i was a private (soldier) (they didn't give,only AK-47 i shoot with.i was a good shooter 200 m 3/3 and 100m 5/5 :lol:) :drool:
You prepared like III. world war. :lol:

:innocent: peace :innocent: sex :innocent: Ladyboys :innocent:

[ts_lover]

Hmm, same as above. No pics :)

20 (since today), from germany. :D

[tlover]

This is my most recent pic. Sadly it is stereotypicaly redneck. There I am in a wifebeater and some of my arsenal. Taken during a camping trip.

Yer that's a lot of guns and ammo you got there, a bit scary.
You expecting trouble?:eek:

[mykel73]

Heres my ugly mug.

[translover]

Heres my ugly mug.

hi my friend ;)

i think you collect your LB's underwear :lol:

[Ogryn1313]

hey my friend ? what are they ? :eek:
i have been in Army but i haven't seen an ammunition like yours have even if i was a private (soldier) (they didn't give,only AK-47 i shoot with.i was a good shooter 200 m 3/3 and 100m 5/5 :lol:) :drool:
You prepared like III. world war. :lol:

:innocent: peace :innocent: sex :innocent: Ladyboys :innocent:

Mossberg ATR 100 270 caliber.
Ruger Mini-14 223 caliber. Semi-auto.
Henry .22 caliber long rifle lever action. My favorite in my arsenal. It's dead on accurate, smooth action, reliable, affordable. If a man can only have couple of guns this is a must have.
Ruger MK3 .22 target shooting model. Longer barrel on it. Very good pistol.
And lastly, a 1945 Rock-Ola M-1 Carbine. Considered to be the first assault rifle in America's inventory. Fires a 30 carbine round. Mine is a rare version of the M1. In those days of the war contracts were given out to many manufacturers, Rock-Ola, a juke box manufacturor, are quite rare. This one isn't much good anymore for firing. The reciever appears to have severe metal fatigue and the firing pin seems to no longer function. It jammed often but now won't even fire.

[translover]

Thank you man, :p

Good info about your pistols and rifles, :respect:

I have got one 160 mm :D but long range ;) , fully automatic 1976 model. :lol:




Note : Size doesn't matters, important point is how to use it :cool: ;) :D :lol:

[hankhavelock]

Thank you man, :p

Good info about your pistols and rifles, :respect:

I have got one 160 mm :D but long range ;) , fully automatic 1976 model. :lol:




Note : Size doesn't matters, important point is how to use it :cool: ;) :D :lol:

You guys are SCARY - you MUST be Americans with THAT fascination of hand guns, weapons, death and destruction...

I have a Fender Precision and my next purchase will be a Musicman Stingray... can't kill any one with those, but I can for sure FUNK up the atmosphere... heavy caliber strings, though, I tell you...:cool:

And as for the ladies? They tend to like that a lot - so, please, keep your weapons (which you should never have been allowed to own in the first place) SAFELY locked up and let's get on with the matter that REALLY matters: How to please the lovely shemales that we run into ;-)

Peace, gentlemen!

Hank

[translover]

You guys are SCARY - you MUST be Americans with THAT fascination of hand guns, weapons, death and destruction...

I have a Fender Precision and my next purchase will be a Musicman Stingray... can't kill any one with those, but I can for sure FUNK up the atmosphere... heavy caliber strings, though, I tell you...:cool:

And as for the ladies? They tend to like that a lot - so, please, keep your weapons (which you should never have been allowed to own in the first place) SAFELY locked up and let's get on with the matter that REALLY matters: How to please the lovely shemales that we run into ;-)

Peace, gentlemen!

Hank

:frown:

i have only a weapon in my pants :p and i keep it till 1976 when i was born :p

thats all :drool: :innocent:

[hankhavelock]

Just for clarification: A Fender Precision and a Musicman Stingray are bass-guitars... :-) Musical instruments... if any one might wonder -) They are not "weapons-of-mass-destruction" - :rolleyes:

[translover]

i have WASHBURN classical ;)

but i don't know playing guitar yet :lol:

[tlover]

I have two organs a Yamaha which i don't play too well, it don't help i nearly chopped my left hand off a couple of years back, and a nice one between my legs, which i play very well, right handed you see.:D

[Ogryn1313]

Usually I'd be offended when someone rushes to judgment about an American and guns. The whole "we are superior to you because we don't like guns" things in foreing countries pissed me off.
But actually, Hank, I wan't to thank you for bringing it up and thus giving me a chance to speak my piece on the matter.
First of all, I'm not fascinated with death. And who doesn't like a bit of stress relieving destruction from time to time?
I think it is important, Hank, not to lump all Americans with guns into one category. The truth is, we have two distinct gun cultures in the United States. The one you referred to with stereotypes does indeed exist. It is the one responsible for school massacres and other crimes. There is a segment of Americans who indeed glorify the gun and treat it like some kind of status symbol. You see this most evident in the gangster rap culture. And quite obviously kids are influenced by this. However, I must point out that guns do not commit crimes. People do. If we banned guns in America crime rates would not drop significantly. People would just use other weapons to use in the commission of a crime. It is debatable if the right to bear arms helps protect citizins or not, or if it increases crimes. I'm not interested in debating that.
Now, the other gun culture is the one I belong to. You see, I am an Appalachian. Raised in the mountains. Guns have always been around in my life. The good gun culture is one in which owners do not glorify their guns. To them a gun is a tool. The majority of this culture are hunters. Some are just sport shooters like myself. See Hank, I'm an animal lover. I've never hunted and never will. I can say with pride that my guns will never take a life. However, if in a life or death situation in which someone is trying to kill me I take comfort in knowing I have the protection of my firearms should it come to the worst. I pray it does not. The gun culture I belong to is not at all like the gun swinging bullies in American films or rap videos. We respect the gun and its lethality. We do not abuse it.

[gizmo]

Just for clarification: A Fender Precision and a Musicman Stingray are bass-guitars... :-) Musical instruments... if any one might wonder -) They are not "weapons-of-mass-destruction" - :rolleyes:

My girl has a weapon of ass destruction! :lol:

[Ogryn1313]

Guns aren't WMD

My farts are. I once cleared out a Spencer's Gifts in a mall with one single fart.

[tlover]

After weeks of agonizing about it i've decided to come out in the open and revile myself.
That's me then, quite handsome aren't i.:)

[hankhavelock]

However, I must point out that guns do not commit crimes. People do. If we banned guns in America crime rates would not drop significantly. People would just use other weapons to use in the commission of a crime.

Ogryn

Maybe guns don't do the crime... but they sure as shit make it a lot easier... I doubt that the good old bow and arrow would result in the same degree of killings. But alas, I hear you, brother. The problem is not in the weapons alone... it is in American culture, one of the most violent the world has ever witnessed.

And obviously that makes me feel superiour - not in a militaristic sense of the term, but in the concept of being a developed human being. Regarding violence most non-Americans can feel superiour. American history is one of violence - the good old American dream is based on aggressiveness. Unfortunately, this MINDSET of "every man's right to make his OWN way in which ever way possible" is still deeply rooted in your post-Columbus culture.

Now, that said (as I find it a bit outta place at this forum), I am, indeed, a big friend of America - and I've had the privilege of living there for a part of my life. Also America has twice in the last century shown great solidarity and come to a very needed rescue of European existence and culture. But now I'm really getting ahead of myself here :-)

I appreciate your point of view even though I disagree with the core logic of it. But rest assured, I won't challenge you to a gun-duel ;-) No, rather I may challenge you to a good night out among the ladyboys... then maybe we can use "the good guns" in stead... yippee ay yeah!

Peace!

Hank

[hankhavelock]

Why are yawl so afraid to show your pretty faces? Mother ain't reading this fine forum anyways ;-)

Here you can find some more of me... as well as some words...

http://www.gayromeo.com/hankhavelock

[Ogryn1313]

Man, just because a nation might ban guns and is less violent makes nobody superior. People are the same wherever you may go I've come to see. Look at me. I love my guns. I enjoy shooting them and blasting apart things like old tv sets, computer pieces, whatever. Yeah, that's aggressive and destructive. But you know what? I've never shot an animal. I've never shot nor want to shoot a human. So you're no better than me.
And take away the guns the criminals will use other weapons. And the bow and arrow actually inflicts more trauma than most guns. If it can be used to hurt another the criminals will use it. Personally, I'd hate to see America become Europeanized. There's much about the culture in Europe that can be considered not good. Take the French, steadily becoming an entitlement based society of lazy assed whiners. You know, they have a law there that allows someone not to be fired for any reason for the first year or two of employment?
As for the ladyboys...maybe some of them wouldn't mind getting in a little target practice with this unevolved and inferior American. And after that a bit of target practice with our non lethal guns.

[guest]

lol we're doing everything so wrong, we're so inferior to everyone.. yet we're the strongest nation in the world.

anyway this is a site for shemales don't forget hehe. we can all unite in that common love!

[eliogabalo]

Man, just because a nation might ban guns and is less violent makes nobody superior. People are the same wherever you may go I've come to see. Look at me. I love my guns. I enjoy shooting them and blasting apart things like old tv sets, computer pieces, whatever. Yeah, that's aggressive and destructive. But you know what? I've never shot an animal. I've never shot nor want to shoot a human. So you're no better than me.
And take away the guns the criminals will use other weapons. And the bow and arrow actually inflicts more trauma than most guns. If it can be used to hurt another the criminals will use it. Personally, I'd hate to see America become Europeanized. There's much about the culture in Europe that can be considered not good. Take the French, steadily becoming an entitlement based society of lazy assed whiners. You know, they have a law there that allows someone not to be fired for any reason for the first year or two of employment?
As for the ladyboys...maybe some of them wouldn't mind getting in a little target practice with this unevolved and inferior American. And after that a bit of target practice with our non lethal guns.

You hate to see America become Europeanized ... It's very strange ... We in Europe have the feeling we ar Americanizated...
Why so acrimonious ? I'm italian, but the French, with its wonderful art and culture, is the most stunning nation in the world.
Down with Nationalism! :no:

[guest]

ok well i'm gonna post these pics i took speacially for this site :) tried to cover myself up with my dope jacket hehe

yes, that's a cuban and mexican flag in the back :)

[hankhavelock]

Man, just because a nation might ban guns and is less violent makes nobody superior. People are the same wherever you may go I've come to see. Look at me. I love my guns. I enjoy shooting them and blasting apart things like old tv sets, computer pieces, whatever. Yeah, that's aggressive and destructive. But you know what? I've never shot an animal. I've never shot nor want to shoot a human. So you're no better than me.
And take away the guns the criminals will use other weapons. And the bow and arrow actually inflicts more trauma than most guns. If it can be used to hurt another the criminals will use it. Personally, I'd hate to see America become Europeanized. There's much about the culture in Europe that can be considered not good. Take the French, steadily becoming an entitlement based society of lazy assed whiners. You know, they have a law there that allows someone not to be fired for any reason for the first year or two of employment?
As for the ladyboys...maybe some of them wouldn't mind getting in a little target practice with this unevolved and inferior American. And after that a bit of target practice with our non lethal guns.

My famous last words in this particular debate:

Just consider this... America is a country at war, at present in two different countries. None the less, "the main killers of Americans" (I'd believe that's the type of vulgar phrasing your current disaster of a president would use in public) are NOT foreign enemy soldiers - nope, they are not even close to your very own, armed-to-the-teeth, fellow Americans!

And you guys don't primarily kill each other only using swords and daggers... right?

Now, I'm certain the logic of this argument will pass miles above your head, but just give it a little thought... and NOW I rest my case.

Peace, my brother - and lighten up a little, will ya?!

Hankypanky

[hankhavelock]

ok well i'm gonna post these pics i took speacially for this site :) tried to cover myself up with my dope jacket hehe

yes, that's a cuban and mexican flag in the back :)

dude - you could also wear a burka... ;-)

No, don't feel pressured to upload pics if you feel it's bad for you. There are many ways. For example, if you find your self in a good communication with a nice transsexual woman you can just email her a picture. That way you maintain your anonymousity in general.

Cheers!

Hank

[hankhavelock]

You hate to see America become Europeanized ... It's very strange ... We in Europe have the feeling we ar Americanizated...
Why so acrimonious ? I'm italian, but the French, with its wonderful art and culture, is the most stunning nation in the world.
Down with Nationalism! :no:

We really should ask the moderator to set up a place to discuss off-topic issues.

Your point is very interesting.

Primarily the fascination of America in the rest of the world is shallow and uninformed - as, indeed, American culture is as well in many regards (but certainly not all). But America has been considerably more succesful in exporting Coca Cola, hamburgers and entertaining movies than anything else. Which, of course, in many regards gives a very distorted picture of America as a carefree nation where every thing is light and easy.

But it takes two to tango and the blame is as well on us. And it also means that we sometimes miss the point of what the "true" America really is - with all its flaws and all its wonders.

With the current administration it's VERY hard to credibly "export" American moral and political values - because these original values are under severe attack in America itself right now.

But, tomorrow will come :-) If you watch history America has the track-record in inconsistency... but some how she always lands on her feet AND on the side of "good".

And the best thing is that we can HAVE these discussions... which is not least due to American intervention when it REALLY mattered!

Peace!

Hank

[hankhavelock]

Just for your info, I messaged the administrator and asked if we can set up an extra thread for off-topic issues.

The fact is that we meet here, start discussing here and better stay here. On the other hand, the current and interesting political debate is not at all relevant to the topic of this forum, so I'm afraid we'll ruin the debate.

What do you think?

Hank

[eliogabalo]

This issue is very complicated. Many Europeans feel annoyed because the Americans think they are the "standard-bearers" of freedom, democracy and civil rights in the world. This fact, from our point of view, is a sort of embezzlement. You see; i live in Florence, the city in wich, in the year 1786, Pietro Leopoldo di Lorena abolished the Death Sentence. When i think that in the USA the Death Sentence is still a sad reality, i find very hard to understand the american attitude. The same thing can be said for the second world war. Apart the issue of the political and economic interests of the USA in the war, the american contribution was very important. But the contribution of England and, above all, of the Soviet Union ( 20 millions of Russians dead fighting against Hitler !!), was really huge.
We admire the USA very much and feel very attracted by their fascinating culture based on freedom and individualism. Nevertheless, we have the feeling the Americans take the credit for everything is happened in the modern history ...

[mykel73]

This issue is very complicated. Many Europeans feel annoyed because the Americans think they are the "standard-bearers" of freedom, democracy and civil rights in the world. This fact, from our point of view, is a sort of embezzlement. You see; i live in Florence, the city in wich, in the year 1786, Pietro Leopoldo di Lorena abolished the Death Sentence. When i think that in the USA the Death Sentence is still a sad reality, i find very hard to understand the american attitude. The same thing can be said for the second world war. Apart the issue of the political and economic interests of the USA in the war, the american contribution was very important. But the contribution of England and, above all, of the Soviet Union ( 20 millions of Russians dead fighting against Hitler !!), was really huge.
We admire the USA very much and feel very attracted by their fascinating culture based on freedom and individualism. Nevertheless, we have the feeling the Americans take the credit for everything is happened in the modern history ...

You have a very good point, and maybe it's the way I way brought up but I have always told my friends that they need to remember that we (other Americans and I) are not the only nation out there. We where never meant to be the peace keepers of the world. That is why we have the UN, and we have no right to tell another nation how to govern them selves when we are so divided at home. I love my Country but sometimes we can be full of our selves and I'm ashamed of that fact.

[hankhavelock]

You have a very good point, and maybe it's the way I way brought up but I have always told my friends that they need to remember that we (other Americans and I) are not the only nation out there. We where never meant to be the peace keepers of the world. That is why we have the UN, and we have no right to tell another nation how to govern them selves when we are so divided at home. I love my Country but sometimes we can be full of our selves and I'm ashamed of that fact.

I still think we should move this debate to another thread, but so be it.

Mykel, by my view there's always two sides to a coin. And if these two sides represent the extremes then the true solution is probably some where in the middle. In America you have the right wing currently of the impression that anybody against your current president is, indeed, against America - on the other extreme you have the isolationists that believe that America should withdraw from any international interaction. In Europe we have the people readily accepting ANY THING coming from America as gospel - and on the other side the anti-Americans that only see the CocaColas, the hand guns and the Bushes...

They all represent simplified views of a complex world.

We all need each other in this world - now more than ever - and to succesfully face the giant challenges ahead of us we need to work together and to take equal part. American and European history are united - well, American culture is primarily based on Europe and to imagine a world where these two parts do not interact is ridiculous.

But now other parts of the world are coming along as equal partners - and then it is our duty to welcome these new players in a positive spirit. South East Asia for example is on the move and can contribute tremendously to the development of this world in the right direction.

So, it's looking promising if we can just accept each other and learn the good and the bad from different societies.

I have to disagree a little bit with you, though. You said that it is not America's job to be a peace-keeper. I believe you are wrong in that opinion. Obviously, going to war in sinister Middle Eastern countries is not an example of peace keeping. How ever, history shows that if America does not actively participate then we might all be in serious trouble.

H

[eliogabalo]

Every time a nation is very powerful, it assumes the role of peace-keeper and civilizer of the world, but it always ends up looking only after its interests.
So did the Roman Empire, so the Spain, so the Soviet Union, so the England ... now it's the turn of the USA. Perhaps i'm a bit pessimist, but i think this is unavoidable.
Regarding human and civil rights, i think some European nations are at the moment the most advanced in the world: Holland, England; French and the amazing Spain of Zapatero, who introduced in a catholic country the homosexual marriage.

[Ogryn1313]

It all got started because I posted a pic of myself and my arsenal. A damned pity I didn't have any other pic of myself to post. Yeah yeah, I get it. America is the worst country in the world. So inferior to Europeans. You know, I go to another website which sadly has less intellectual people than this good site. And day in and day out it's nothing but a hate filled, bash America, the president, Christians and other stuff. Very few people on that other site have informed opinions and just spout off far left dogma.
I agree, if this site has a forum section for such stuff that'd be good. But I'll be keeping out of it. This site is my alternative to that hateful other one. If I had known my pic would spawn this shit I'd not have posted it.
Is it possible I can take it down and remove my posts?

[hankhavelock]

It all got started because I posted a pic of myself and my arsenal. A damned pity I didn't have any other pic of myself to post. Yeah yeah, I get it. America is the worst country in the world. So inferior to Europeans. You know, I go to another website which sadly has less intellectual people than this good site. And day in and day out it's nothing but a hate filled, bash America, the president, Christians and other stuff. Very few people on that other site have informed opinions and just spout off far left dogma.
I agree, if this site has a forum section for such stuff that'd be good. But I'll be keeping out of it. This site is my alternative to that hateful other one. If I had known my pic would spawn this shit I'd not have posted it.
Is it possible I can take it down and remove my posts?

Come on, Ogryn, my man...

Nobody is hateful here - and it's a good and healthy debate. Nobody has expressed anti-American sentiments here. We're just sharing views. Of course a pic of you showing a personal arsenal of a size that would make most medium sized Latin American countries DREWL evokes comments... but take it as it is. Nobody is after you or any one else personally. Look at it from the humouristic side as well :-)

Your points of view are as right or wrong as any body else's here. So don't go overly sensitive now!

But yes, we really should move this interesting exchange of opinions on to another thread. I already pm'ed the moderator, but so far no reply.

So Ogryn, no chickening out now... with that impressive arsenal none of us would stand a chance any ways ;-)

Loosen up a bit, man!

Peace!

Hank

[eliogabalo]

I'm sorry to hear that this pacific debate has offended a member. My english is defective and it's possible that i expressed badly my opinions.
Ogryn, i ensure you that USA are very admired in Europe for many reasons, for example the freedom of the press and the laicity of the institutions. I've only criticised the "superiority complex" that always troubles the strong and powerful nations as you are. Here nobody hates the american people. Perhaps the love for your country has made you hypersensitive.
I think it's important to have a critical mind regarding the behaviour of the politicians. The american politicians are the only that used the atomic bomb against a helpless population, and have the biggest arsenal of nuclear weapons in the world. How can they be credible as peace-keeper and policemen of the world ? Don't be so nationalist !

[inadaze]

unless any of us is running for election I think we should stay away from politics and live for sex instead

[Ogryn1313]

Not hypersensitive. I just see enough bashing America on my other most visited site. The site I go to is a miserable one full of negativity that is overwhelming. Well, I'll be honest...
Satanspace.com. A Satanic site. I'm not a Satanist myself and personally I find them to be disgusting. I go there because there's a lot of kids on it and I try to encourage the ones willing to listen not to get associated with that kind of thing. And it is full of horrible shit. Bashing my country is just one of a long list of hateful and bitter things. And it saddens me seeing so many kids being indoctrinated to it.
As for the nukes...
Japan is the only nation in the world that has experienced nuclear warfare. this had such a profound effect on their culture. You know, Godzilla was a kind of outcry against nuclear weapons and the atomic age. And in their anime you have alot of apocalyptic themes.
Now, as for why the bombs were used...
You have those who say the bombs were an alternative to invading the home islands and incurring an estimated one million casualties. This is reasonable since they made us pay a heavy toll in blood for every island captured. It's reasonable to think these weapons would break their will to fight. It then becomes a matter of how many numbers of dead is acceptable.
You have another school of thought too. We know now that the bombs were not necessary as it seems Japan was already working towards surrendering. It is apparent that the president wanted to send a message to the Soviets and the bombs were the message. Afterall, as soon as Berlin was taken the Cold War began.
My take on it is, even if it took one million casualties I would have preferred invading the home islands. The nuclear bombs were targeted on cities full of children and civilians. Perhaps not all innocent as they are viable military targets. But they were non-combatants. With this said, invading Japan would have resulted in more death than nuking them. But if they were surrendering who knows right? I love Japan and wish to go there someday. Bombing them is one of the two ugliest chapters in American history, the other being the genocide of the natives.

[eliogabalo]

Happy for your return ... I like Japan too. :)

[hankhavelock]

Not hypersensitive. I just see enough bashing America on my other most visited site. The site I go to is a miserable one full of negativity that is overwhelming. Well, I'll be honest...
Satanspace.com. A Satanic site. I'm not a Satanist myself and personally I find them to be disgusting. I go there because there's a lot of kids on it and I try to encourage the ones willing to listen not to get associated with that kind of thing. And it is full of horrible shit. Bashing my country is just one of a long list of hateful and bitter things. And it saddens me seeing so many kids being indoctrinated to it.
As for the nukes...
Japan is the only nation in the world that has experienced nuclear warfare. this had such a profound effect on their culture. You know, Godzilla was a kind of outcry against nuclear weapons and the atomic age. And in their anime you have alot of apocalyptic themes.
Now, as for why the bombs were used...
You have those who say the bombs were an alternative to invading the home islands and incurring an estimated one million casualties. This is reasonable since they made us pay a heavy toll in blood for every island captured. It's reasonable to think these weapons would break their will to fight. It then becomes a matter of how many numbers of dead is acceptable.
You have another school of thought too. We know now that the bombs were not necessary as it seems Japan was already working towards surrendering. It is apparent that the president wanted to send a message to the Soviets and the bombs were the message. Afterall, as soon as Berlin was taken the Cold War began.
My take on it is, even if it took one million casualties I would have preferred invading the home islands. The nuclear bombs were targeted on cities full of children and civilians. Perhaps not all innocent as they are viable military targets. But they were non-combatants. With this said, invading Japan would have resulted in more death than nuking them. But if they were surrendering who knows right? I love Japan and wish to go there someday. Bombing them is one of the two ugliest chapters in American history, the other being the genocide of the natives.


As I remember from my political science classes at Loyola University years ago... the use of nuclear weapons is not a military option - it is a political one. Tactical nuclear weapons not included - if, indeed, there is such a thing. The "counter-value" threat alone is meant to deter the opponent to ever start messing with you. The message being "if you fuck with me, I'm gonna annihilate you...". That's the logic of deterrence. And it worked for many years, actually.

Good old Ronald Reagan, who by my book is one of the most competent foreign policy makers in post-ww2 history, understood this completely. In spite of all the bad publicity by the left wing, the fact is that Ronnie-boy was DETERMINED to end the cold war. And he did! Holy f****** mama mia... the socalled "war monger" and probably the most hated American president in many years (well, your current one beats that - but he also deserves it :-) truly understood the nature of the Soviet Union and dealt with them the right way. Result: The cold war is history. So I raise my proverbial Stetson for good old Ronald Reagan! He had a dream - and he made it happen! Respect!

And as for the anti-everything fora you attend. I appreciate your work - this world is sadly full of people who has made it their business to be "anti". The right-wing muslims (who are actually behaving very anti-islamic) are yet another good example of this. You can find right-wing Christians whos mindsets match that pretty close, but they rarely use suicide-bombs... they just elect a president to do the job :-)

SO sane critisism is called for - but hateful outbursts lead us no where. I'm sorry you encounter that at the other fora, but the challenge then is to present "an offer they cannot refuse". And by that I mean a sane reasoning why they are SO wrong and uninformed. Present it to them in an easy-to-understand way - I doubt you're dealing with the intelligentsia there. But keep up the good work.

Peace, brother! You deserve a SWEEEEEET ladyboy rubbing your back, kissing your cheek, loving you the way ONLY a transsexual woman can love you :-)

H

[Ogryn1313]

Well we agree on something then. I think Reagan was the best president since FDR. Its easy now for some in the media to tear him down but the man did handle the Cold War perfectly. When he uttered those famous words that spelled the end of the Soviet Union. All the while he kept us out of actually going to WW3...at least that concept of WW3 now.
It used to be I didn't so much care about politic, left or right, dem or rep, etc. I didn't care about Christianity, Islam, that so called Satanism religion. It's not really a religion, more like a counter culture movement with a hate group slant to it. All I believed in was my ideas of right and wrong. And it seems to me there's more wrong in the world than right. Take for example Bush. Ok, he makes mistakes. He won't known for being the best foreign policy guy. Or border security. But I do think he'll be known for fighting terrorism. But honestly...can you recall any single president ever getting the level of hatred and disrespect than Bush? The media and such is so bitter and is encouraging a disrespect for the office and not just the man. In my 32 years I've not seen any president take this much flak. And I don't think its just because he's screwing some things up. I think it is the result of shift of thinking on the parts of many.
But yeah...right now a tgirl giving me nice back rub sounds mighty damned good. One of these days I'll experience that love thing you're talking about.

[hankhavelock]

But yeah...right now a tgirl giving me nice back rub sounds mighty damned good. One of these days I'll experience that love thing you're talking about.

Well, Reagan was mostly critized when he was alive in office :-) Unfortunately, the same opinion-makers that tore him down back then have not had the courtesy to give the man credit later. That would make them look like the fools they, indeed, were :-)

But when it cums to your current president... my man, he TRULY is asking for it. He will NOT be remembered as the guy who fought anything but his own right wing ghosts. He is and has always been a political disaster of less than mediocre intelligense (in other words, the man is a stupid sob) run by a neanderthal-administration of born again Christians, corrupt oil-folks and less than credible advisors. But luckily that administration will soon be gone. They have done more harm to American image and security than even the worst nightmares thought possible. You guys should actually charge them with treason, because never has an American administration done so much harm to American foreign policy credibility.

Don't EVER compare him to Ronald Reagan, please! Reagan was a VISIONARY! He had a dream! And he followed it. I think that the only dreams your current president is capable of having are the post-alcoholic nightmares of nasty scorpions dressed up in burkas coming to get him...

But again, luckily that most harmful administration is soon finding its end. May you Americans be wise enough NOT to vote Republican next time... ain't no new Ronald Reagans in THAT party for the moment...

And yes... I don't remember... are you a married guy with 28 kids? Or are you still a free man at liberty to choose your sexuality in spite of the narrow-minded feed-back you'll probably encounter when you finally come home with your chosen, transsexual wife?

If you're still single I truly urge you to follow that heart of yours. Nobody thanks you not to! Go find that transsexual princess of your dreams... and trust me, my friend, she IS out there! And once you find her you'll know how RIGHT it is... cause the love from a transsexual woman has an edge... an extra dimension... and trust me, I know it!

Best wishes!

H

[eliogabalo]

Do you remember what happened in Florida in the year 2000 ? Al Gore was the winner and the real president. G.W. Bush is not only an incompetent, but also a big swindler. He became president thanks to an incredible amount of swindles and lucky circumstances. I think Al Gore was an outstanding president for the USA and the whole world

[hankhavelock]

Al Gore would no doubt have made a better president - any one would... but 2000 is history now and the American people elected him once more in 2004. So now let's look ahead - the Democrats have three VERY interesting candidates that are all capable of making a difference. Let's hope that they this time make a better choice. I'm sure they will...

[eliogabalo]

I'm not so optimist. I think Al Gore was the best candidate. Anyway, the most important thing is G.W. Bush goes away. Nobody of the republican candidates can be so terrible as this swindler...

[hankhavelock]

Let me add... I think this is the most exciting set of candidates that we have seen... ever! A woman! A black man (and even a guy who lived in my neighbourhood :-)! Fabulous! They are the two most likely to be the competitors. The Republicans can only present tired old caucasian males at the age of 260+

Now, I think that both Condi and especially a guy like Colin Powell would have been interesting candidates that would have had a chance to combat the MASSIVE intellectual supremacy of the Democratic party. But, of course, the Republican party go for old, old, old white guys (and the more "born-again-Christian the better)... that's their mindset... stupid them... and good for all the others :-)

Let's see if the American people can finally live up to their electoral responsibility... :-)

H

[eliogabalo]

I think Rudolph Giuliani is a very dangerous opponent. Don't understimate him !
I fear that Rudy Giuliani satisfies the taste of many americans better than Hillary Clinton or Barak Obama. Al Gore was an outstanding alternative, because is at the moment very popular and his popularity is transversal.

[gizmo]

Anyway, this is me, and my lady!

[hankhavelock]

way to go, gizmo... here's another one of me and my lady... a little drunk in good old Bali...

[hankhavelock]

and another one... now it's your turn, guys... let's hear it for the girls!

[gizmo]

She looks very beautiful hank, your a lucky guy! ;) :respect:

[eliogabalo]

Hi, Gizmo ! Your lady has a very sweet smile ... she's lovely !

[guest]

hank and gizmo.. you lucky lucky bastards.. i hate you... :(

hehe no just kidding but you both have beutiful girls.. :respect:

[hankhavelock]

hank and gizmo.. you lucky lucky bastards.. i hate you... :(

hehe no just kidding but you both have beutiful girls.. :respect:

It's only a matter of following your heart, my man! Any one can and should do that! F*** what people say... you're the only king of YOUR life! Come and experience the depths of being loved by a transsexual woman!

Super wishes!

H

[hankhavelock]

She looks very beautiful hank, your a lucky guy! ;) :respect:

Gizmo, may I ask... do you guys live together? Married? Your gf is SO cute. I guess we're both lucky! Thumbs up!

[gizmo]

Gizmo, may I ask... do you guys live together? Married? Your gf is SO cute. I guess we're both lucky! Thumbs up!

No unfortunately, she work's bar in pattaya, but alway's makes time for me when I visit! And yes, I know what she does to make money :rolleyes:
but it's her life, and as hank probably know's, it's not as frowned upon in Asia!
To most of them, it's just a job like any other!

[eliogabalo]

:yes: You're right, oh so right ! If you love this ladyboys her job is totally insignificant. The only important thing is she loves you.

[Ogryn1313]

Well, Reagan was mostly critized when he was alive in office :-) Unfortunately, the same opinion-makers that tore him down back then have not had the courtesy to give the man credit later. That would make them look like the fools they, indeed, were :-)

But when it cums to your current president... my man, he TRULY is asking for it. He will NOT be remembered as the guy who fought anything but his own right wing ghosts. He is and has always been a political disaster of less than mediocre intelligense (in other words, the man is a stupid sob) run by a neanderthal-administration of born again Christians, corrupt oil-folks and less than credible advisors. But luckily that administration will soon be gone. They have done more harm to American image and security than even the worst nightmares thought possible. You guys should actually charge them with treason, because never has an American administration done so much harm to American foreign policy credibility.

Don't EVER compare him to Ronald Reagan, please! Reagan was a VISIONARY! He had a dream! And he followed it. I think that the only dreams your current president is capable of having are the post-alcoholic nightmares of nasty scorpions dressed up in burkas coming to get him...

But again, luckily that most harmful administration is soon finding its end. May you Americans be wise enough NOT to vote Republican next time... ain't no new Ronald Reagans in THAT party for the moment...

And yes... I don't remember... are you a married guy with 28 kids? Or are you still a free man at liberty to choose your sexuality in spite of the narrow-minded feed-back you'll probably encounter when you finally come home with your chosen, transsexual wife?

If you're still single I truly urge you to follow that heart of yours. Nobody thanks you not to! Go find that transsexual princess of your dreams... and trust me, my friend, she IS out there! And once you find her you'll know how RIGHT it is... cause the love from a transsexual woman has an edge... an extra dimension... and trust me, I know it!

Best wishes!

H

I think history will eventually be kinder to Bush than current times. I know history well. And it plays funny games with perspective and opinions. Only time will tell though.

As for my personal life...

I was married once and divorced. The marriage was a rush job and the ex and I clearly weren't right for one another. She left me one month after the marriage, which occurred on Xmas eve. So it ruined holidays for me. To make it worse the divorce was final on my birthday lol!
I then proceded to waste 8 years on someone with more mental issues than the DSM-4.
Finally I found someone to try marriage with again. Were together for two years. Engaged. I bought wedding rings. She then cheated on me with a shinyhead freakshow and ran off.
Another irony? My exwife and exfiance both have the same last name. Should have known better. Unrelated but same last name.
Where I live I am not free to express myself and pursue my sexuality. Personally, I dont feel it to be gay or even bisexual to have interest in tgirls. But my small town in the mountains of Kentucky would. On top of that there is nowhere close I could even hope to meet anyone or socialize in a more suitable environment. The closest place I know of is two hours away in Tennessee at an odd bar that is kind of a mix of a drag show, gay bar and straight bar all in one. I've been there twice, saw plenty of crossdressers and lots of gays. Even got hit on heavily by gay men. I wasn't so much into that. for me to want to be with a guy he has to be something special and few men move me that way. I only ever knew one guy I would mess with. On one occasion I did make out nicely with a girl there. As for what was between her legs...who knows. So for the time being, until I can afford to relocate, I'm pretty much up shit creek without a paddle.

[sicsmack665]

here yeh go.

[qwerty]

unless any of us is running for election I think we should stay away from politics and live for sex instead

the primary job qualification!!!

[inadaze]

the primary job qualification!!!

lol I'm not very good at sticking to thread topics. I didnt realise it was a general discussion thread at the time :innocent:
So everyone feel free to discuss politics in here lol

By the way does Hilary look shemaleish to anyone else ? ;-)

[Ogryn1313]

Looks like the goddamn Wicked Witch of the West if you ask me. The woman is ugly I tell ya. And that smile? It's like a sharks face. Those are dead like a sharks.

[inadaze]

lol emphasis is on 'male '

[SSL]

Don't tell me you're only 16, :lol: As a matter of fact this forum is intended for adults only.

[guest]

umm... ... no that myspace page lies! :)

[mykel73]

pal.. Obama? No no no no my friend. Bill Richardson all the way baby. :D

[guest]

nevah!!! obama owns all.

[reanna 71]

Clinton gets my vote .The best economy this country ever had. btw im not very political .TMO

[BlueRaven88]

here i am. 2 (count em TWO!!!) pics to burn your eyes haha :D
most recent is the one without the labret ring

[BlueRaven88]

so it ends with me huh? damn wussies post your pics its not like what we're doing is wrong sheesh

[guest]

so it ends with me huh? damn wussies post your pics its not like what we're doing is wrong sheesh
word.

just for the hell of it, here's my artist page on myspace.. has some of my experimental music tracks on there

www.myspace.com/acesnofone

[pornostar_nico]

:yes: single :inlove:

[CuriousJim]

I could never post my photo on here, I'm not ashamed that I like shemales, just affraid of any stick I'll get.

[bluevelvet 69]

My pic is in my avatar - I'm the one on the left and my fiancee is on the right.
You are a lucky man having such a lovely fiancee, hankhavelock. Is it to personal to ask if she are from Philippines or Thailand?

[Arato]

Well here I am take a look ;)

[fionahavelock]

You are a lucky man having such a lovely fiancee, hankhavelock. Is it to personal to ask if she are from Philippines or Thailand?

okay, let me get things fixed in here..
me and hank was together before...
but engagement off now...
we remind as friend only.. we move on..
he met someone and i currently get knowing someone new ...
and i'm not either phillipines or Thai... i'm indonesian...
all the best luck for everyone....


fiona

[sesame]

Hank somehow reminds me of Gregory Peck. You've got a pretty good likeness. Hey man, I read some of your posts and see you as an emotional, chivalrous, honest kind of person. And may I add poetic? :D

[sesame]

Honestly, I'm scared to put my picture here.
But I really feel close to some of you in here.
You are frank, funny, poetic and sometimes philosophical.
:heart: for all.

[Bionca]

I know.. I'd LOVE to see you sesame. But I totally dig not wanting to post self pics.

[sesame]

Yeah, you know... the rotten hypocritical society.
Sometimes its very difficult to broadcast your independent opinion.
Thats why people vote in secret ballot!:yes:

[russellwu]

My picture's in my profile thingamabob. It's still a risk, but at least it'll take a little bit more effort to see my picture, in case someone i know stumbles across this forum.

[russellwu]

And on that note, I'd like to make a suggestion:
How about making certain threads viewable only to people who have a certain minimum number of posts?
That'd ensure that only "serious" members (those that aren't just in for the porn) get to see each others' pictures and other more personal details. No need to worry about people trying blackmail you (because someone with 50 non-spam posts is probably trustworthy, and/or in as deep a pile of shit as you. :P ) and no need to worry about people accidentally seeing your face and posting it all over the internet.

[sesame]

translover:
Don't Panic !!!!!
It's me and It's what i really like to do

:lol:
thanks for your funny comments.

[sesame]

And obviously that makes me feel superiour - not in a militaristic sense of the term, but in the concept of being a developed human being To be proud of being peaceful is indeed very cool.
But my dear Hank,
The problem is not in the weapons alone... it is in American culture, one of the most violent the world has ever witnessed
Please show some respect for someone's Nationality. Dont thrash America so much; It will hurt some hearts right on.
Peace :yes:

[TheSkronkDonkey]

Hey Hank!

You look even younger and cooler than I first imagined. Don't get insulted or anythin', but all these new pictures are an improvement over your original forum avatar. Groovy, baby.

Your words, too ..... awesome writing. America is a land of extremes -- wealth, education, technology, morals .... you name it. That's why one should always moderate their criticism with praise (and vice versa). As for Bush: well, the guy comes across as a complete dunderhead at times, but there is also this to consider: he's the first president to come *into* power at the true dawn of the Internet and the Information Age. We're being a lot more critical of people -- often, superficially so, without knowing all the facts -- than a decade ago. I've also seen videos of Bush being charismatic, intelligent and holding his own against some pretty vocal anti-Bush people. And I don't disagree with all his policies, either. Iraq is the fulcrum. It has changed everything. Unfortunately, it wouldn't have been any different under Clinton or a Democrat administration. Clinton even said in a recent interview that he'd have gone for Saddam as Bush did, but that he'd have gotten UN approval first (easy to say that, especially when he wasn't in the driving seat and could make himself look good by posing a more favourable scenario in retrospect). Worst president ever? That's a tough one. I wouldn't like to say. I'd probably give it to Truman for dropping TWO A-Bombs. But that was a very awkward situation.

ANYWAY . . .

I'm choosing not to post a picture at present. Gotta agree with the other abstainers, even if I don't particularly like myself for choosing not to post. To refer back to my words above, this is the Information Age. You never know what may happen. I've already had some bad experience in this area. I'm not thrilled at the possibility of a Round Two.

[BlueRaven88]

my most recent pic i've taken is my current avatar

[miss-aligned]

hope you like,

if too much you tell me,...

[marlowe]

hope you like,

if too much you tell me,...

I like the last pic. Interesting composition.

I have a question. A cock ring, mid cock? How does that work?

[miss-aligned]

I like the last pic. Interesting composition.

I have a question. A cock ring, mid cock? How does that work?

thanks to you... my ring, i like rings, i like jewelry and all these things.

i like to tie leather strap around my girl cock and balls and where it all day,

the ring is for pretty, .. i hope it makes pretty :kiss: it can hurt if i don't move it when my boyfriend get me hard.

[miss-aligned]

it holds me tight even if my girlcock gets out of my swimsuit

[hankhavelock]

My pic is in my avatar - I'm the one on the left and my fiancee is on the right.

Ooops - got left and right mixed up... sorry...:censored:

[marlowe]

the ring is for pretty, .. i hope it makes pretty :kiss: it can hurt if i don't move it when my boyfriend get me hard.

Ok, that explanation makes sense, thx.

I know a ring can be used at the base of the penis to constrict blood flow and help maintain erection. So I was going through contortions imagining how it works mid way - would the bottom half be limp and the top rigid? or the top soft and the bottom hard?

Now I don't have to worry. :cool:

[hankhavelock]

Hey Hank!

You look even younger and cooler than I first imagined. Don't get insulted or anythin', but all these new pictures are an improvement over your original forum avatar. Groovy, baby.

Your words, too ..... awesome writing. America is a land of extremes -- wealth, education, technology, morals .... you name it. That's why one should always moderate their criticism with praise (and vice versa). As for Bush: well, the guy comes across as a complete dunderhead at times, but there is also this to consider: he's the first president to come *into* power at the true dawn of the Internet and the Information Age. We're being a lot more critical of people -- often, superficially so, without knowing all the facts -- than a decade ago. I've also seen videos of Bush being charismatic, intelligent and holding his own against some pretty vocal anti-Bush people. And I don't disagree with all his policies, either. Iraq is the fulcrum. It has changed everything. Unfortunately, it wouldn't have been any different under Clinton or a Democrat administration. Clinton even said in a recent interview that he'd have gone for Saddam as Bush did, but that he'd have gotten UN approval first (easy to say that, especially when he wasn't in the driving seat and could make himself look good by posing a more favourable scenario in retrospect). Worst president ever? That's a tough one. I wouldn't like to say. I'd probably give it to Truman for dropping TWO A-Bombs. But that was a very awkward situation.

ANYWAY . . .

I'm choosing not to post a picture at present. Gotta agree with the other abstainers, even if I don't particularly like myself for choosing not to post. To refer back to my words above, this is the Information Age. You never know what may happen. I've already had some bad experience in this area. I'm not thrilled at the possibility of a Round Two.

Thanks a lot - that's kind of you to say... unfortunately I mixed up left and right, so that may make you change your opinion of my pic here :-)

And regarding the presidency, there is, obviously, only one true answer to that: Barack Obama! This election seems to have reached Kennedy-heights (at least as I understand that it was back then) and is amazing. He's the right man for the position right now. Actually as good old Ronald Reagan was in his time. I'm ultra liberal (of course, I'm Danish :-), but I always liked Reagan - and in the end he put a stop to the nasty cold war by his own persistence :respect:

Barack can do the same. He can bring hope to a world that is severily disillusioned by 8 year's of insane right wing, neo conservative foreign policy. If you guys actually go ahead and vote in Mccain, all the rest of the world (except for the hard-liner Western European countries who'll obediently suck any American president's dick) will turn away with shaking heads.

I personally believe that the choice of the American president should be a matter for the whole wide world - you guys have simply become so powerful (and that's not bad at all, btw - as long as you can handle it prudently, which has sadly not been the case for the last 8 years).

When George Bush arrogantly claimed that you're either for HIM or against America he really overstepped the line of decency and showed his view of both the world and his own country. He's a modern-day McCarthy misusing socalled "patriotism" to put fear into people. And that's dangerous! These right-wingers HATE anything they'll immediately call "abnormal" - such as gays, transsexuals and other "freaks of nature" who don't conform to their traditionalist view of a "good, great, all-American, MORAL" world-view.

They are dinosaurs - fossils of a 1950's outlook on life - just listen to a station like Fox News - this nest of ultra right wing propaganda which they claim to be news.

Nope, I hope America can return to the good old values of your wise forefathers who set standards that George Bush has severily jeopardized in his caesarian view of himself and his nasty administration. "First we send McDonald's - then we send the marines..."

So I'm sorry, I really don't think George Bush has done neither America nor the rest of the world a favour - he proved to be even worse than what could reasonably be feared at his start as president.

Just my views!

Peace!

Hank

[hankhavelock]

To be proud of being peaceful is indeed very cool.
But my dear Hank,

Please show some respect for someone's Nationality. Dont thrash America so much; It will hurt some hearts right on.
Peace :yes:

Maybe I was outta line in my last phrasing - it's not my intention to step on toes - point taken, Sesame!

How ever, George Bush has actually succeeded in putting fear into people for criticizing his policies. And that is shameful!

I love America - my parents lived there and I've lived there, and I've always been a staunch defender of American foreign policy. But George Bush betrayed that. He made it impossible any longer to stand up for America - at least you had to make it very clear that American values were being mutilated by the current administration.

Enough of this... back to other topics :-)

Barack!

Peace!

Hank

[kraken111]

I feel the need to agree. Does anyone here like Guatemalan TMen?:cool:

[sesame]

I Just took this picture 5 minutes ago.
& Blurred it in photoshop for "discretion" :p
Before posting here. Sweet Concealment!!!

[mpaahana]

translove das 1 reel nice cock in da picture is dat u? would luv to suck on it

[hankhavelock]

I Just took this picture 5 minutes ago.
& Blurred it in photoshop for "discretion" :p
Before posting here. Sweet Concealment!!!

Great pic, my man! :respect:

[sesame]

I Just took this picture 5 minutes ago.
& Blurred it in photoshop for "discretion"
Before posting here. Sweet Concealment!!!Eeewww... that's one nasty pic... it's so hideous that it actually has aestetics in its own right :respect:
Hank! I can't believe you called my picture "nasty".
That is such an impolite gesture!
I did'nt expect it from you.:censored:
See Gwendie, people think that I'm uglier than a bug!:(






:p Just pulling hanky's leg

[sesame]

I just added bird on Ila's request.:p
Its not my artwork though.
Its my Photoshopping! ;)

[ila]

I just added bird on Ila's request.:p
Its not my artwork though.
Its my Photoshopping! ;)

It looks good Sesame.:respect:

[sesame]

Thank you my friend, for your kind words.:respect:

[prof_unrat]

Just an update: Obama now is the presidential candidate of the Democrats. Unfortunately his acceptance speech was dreadful. Instead of outlining what he was standing for Obama tried desperately to be "everything to everyone", thus turning himself into a character of no principles. Indeed the speech was clearly inferior to G.W.Bush's speech in 2000 (it was not exactly a great speech, but it got the message over). I consider this a pity, as I initially had great sympathy for Barack Obama, but now I realised that Obama is not the revolutioner he was slated to be. His desperate attempts to win over loyal Hlary Clinton supporters will alienate him from the more moderate voters - and those in the "Bible Belt" who are maligned for causing the "burden of the Bush administration". John McCain may well turn out to become more acceptable. After all there is no direct vote in a U.S. presidential election...
Besides, the horrific 9/11 attack was not directed against G.W.Bush's administration but against that of Bill Clinton! It was Clinton who bungled attacks on Al Quaeda leaders towards the end of his presidency, triggering the deadly chain of events. Poor planning by Al Quaeda caused delays for the "revenge" attacks, so that Bush's government was hit instead. The rest is history.

[Ogryn1313]

Excellent pics Miss Aligned. Do keep them coming!:turnon:


Now for me in my um...well..glory

[Ogryn1313]

Just an update: Obama now is the presidential candidate of the Democrats. Unfortunately his acceptance speech was dreadful. Instead of outlining what he was standing for Obama tried desperately to be "everything to everyone", thus turning himself into a character of no principles. Indeed the speech was clearly inferior to G.W.Bush's speech in 2000 (it was not exactly a great speech, but it got the message over). I consider this a pity, as I initially had great sympathy for Barack Obama, but now I realised that Obama is not the revolutioner he was slated to be. His desperate attempts to win over loyal Hlary Clinton supporters will alienate him from the more moderate voters - and those in the "Bible Belt" who are maligned for causing the "burden of the Bush administration". John McCain may well turn out to become more acceptable. After all there is no direct vote in a U.S. presidential election...
Besides, the horrific 9/11 attack was not directed against G.W.Bush's administration but against that of Bill Clinton! It was Clinton who bungled attacks on Al Quaeda leaders towards the end of his presidency, triggering the deadly chain of events. Poor planning by Al Quaeda caused delays for the "revenge" attacks, so that Bush's government was hit instead. The rest is history.

It is convenient to blame Bush for it all since 9/11 happened during his administration. And all the conspiracy nuts and left wingers conveniently actual and factual history.

Al Qaeda attacked American interests numerous times while the Great Clinton led the sheep America to prosperity. His economy was so wonderful. Never mind that one of the main engines which drove it, the so called "Internet Bubble" had nothing to do with him. And it did collapse in his administration and when he left he left the nation in recession.

But as far as Al Qaeda goes...

let's see...well there was the apartment building which they blew up killing 100 or Americans. As well as numerous attacks against our allies.

Oh yeah, and a previous attack on none other than the World Trade Center itself. How easily that was forgotten.

And we cannot forget the Cole. 17 sailors killed. Right at the onset of the big bad Monica Lewinsky scandal. And it turns out Clinton took a soft approach to the Cole attack because he didn't want the American public to think he was trying to steer attention away from him being an adulterer.

Also, the far left idiots running Moveon.org have a lot to thank for this. Their name came from their effort to "move on" American from the scandal. They originally began as Clinton backing group.

But, ol' Bumbling Bush comes along. Inherits the recession and the little nagging problem of Al Qaeda. Whammo! Instant scapegoat for the far left movers and shakers. See, they weren't done with the Clintons. Moveon stated openly they bought the Democratic party. That they would put Dem in the White House. So their golden child Bill is out of the game. They spend a few years supporting and grooming Hillary. And Hillary didn't always please her far left masters so they soon cut loose and now the far left, thus the media, and all the sheep of the world, support the rock and roll politician, Mr. Celebrity himself, Obama.

But they won't tell you this stuff. Nope. You have to sit back and filter countless news sources, including left or right leaning ones, and read lots of books and find your own truth. But most Americans won't. They turn to ABC, NBC and CNN for their daily guidance.

People need to wake up to this shit. Turn off the goddamn tv news. Stop letting ideologues pump your head full of stuff. Burn the semi-intellectual crap spewed by Michael Moore and the Loose Change Loons. It's all agenda driven ideology. America needs to think for itself again. And not with politicians, the media, and foreign nations putting the thoughts in your heads. Objectivity people!

And before anyone accuses me of being some blind Bush lover think again. I have my issues with the man. But I appreciate he has done something about terrorism. Which is far more than any left leaning or lib owned Dem will. And he did do good work with an Aids initiative in Africa. Even Obama gives him credit for that. He's dropped the ball on illegal immigrants and foreign policy. But show me a president who did every single function of their office and every crisis managed correctly in our history and I'll suck your cock.

[dirty30]

it's a start..and this is my face ---->:cool:

[cutelukas]

Here I am...

[crazybob03]

My pics
Hope you like

[richfun]

My pics
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Do like very much X

[richfun]

That's me !
tend to go for orange or pink, or flowery !

[crazybob03]

More pics
Do you like ? :innocent:

[dkong56]

hope you like them

[GRH]

Just some random ones...

[jsoze2288]

hope you like them

Sexy pics, great looking stuff there!

[jsoze2288]

Sexy pics, great looking stuff there!

Here's a few from me

[Crazzzym]

here you go. some dirty pics from me.

[ElangoSuneina]

awesome! :yes:

[JamieTS]

This is my most recent pic. Sadly it is stereotypicaly redneck. There I am in a wifebeater and some of my arsenal. Taken during a camping trip.

Stereotypically redneck? I don't think so. A stereotypical redneck would have a 4 wheel drive pickup or Jeep.

Yes I grew up redneck in Arkansas in the woods more or less. I am a trans woman and there are no stereotypical rednecks. Rednecks are just as diverse as blacks, whites, people form the north, people from the south, people that live in the city, people that live in the country or anyone else that I left out.

Do not fall into the stereotype crap. No one is a stereotype. Growing up I was a sissy girl that happened to have a penis. Plus I had boobs too and I had no shortage of boyfriends. I love shooting. I used to like hunting even though I never had the heart to kill anything other than one time. The guns you are displaying is nothing compared to the firearms I own. Yes most of mine are .22s for target practice and plinking but I own some pretty rare firearms too. I have a double barrel 500 Nitro that I can't even or wouldn't even hunt with in the states. But I don't hunt. It is a beautiful firearm. A whole lot of engraving on the receiver. I own a Henry Golden boy .22 that is fun to shoot and two Heritage Arms .22 single action pistols. They too are fun and cheap to shoot. I also own an original Colt SAA .44-40 and an original Winchester model '74 that is also .44-40. I also own a Sharps .45-70 which is a government round and used back then to hunt buffalo to starve Native Americans.

Hell I am a tranny and I love to shoot firearms at a range. Or for target practice in a safe place. I don't hunt anymore. I have and actually cried when I killed my first and only deer.

I love the guns you are displaying. Hell I love guns period and the more rare the better.

LOL Really? Redneck? You don't think there are redneck trans girls and women or trans boys or women? You would be surprised at the whole LGBT spectrum. You are cute so you just need to find the trans girls and where they hang out. But sweety trade that rice burner for a 4WD and the redneck LGBTs would be all over you. Especially the Ts.

Scary like someone said? Nah. Cute? Oh yeah. I don't and wouldn't even care for your car when I was younger and that would have been a deal breaker. Camaro, Mustang, Firebird, a Pickup or Jeep is what some redneck trans girls are looking for.

OK so you are young it looks like. But you have to be open and confident. Go to gay hangouts because trans girls will more than likely be there too. Do a websearch for trans hangouts in your area. If you are old enough to drink then check out trans clubs nearby.

Don't be shy, just be confident. Your friends my give you a hard time but I promise if those same friends met a trans girl or trans guy they were attracted to then they wouldn't have shit to say. Show them Bailey Jay, Amy Daley and Bruna Butterfly on the internet and I promise you they would all have stiffies while watching.

Just some suggestion if you are over 18. But there are plenty of redneck trans girls. Trust me.